Another post from Fr. Simon.
May 10, 2010
Had a 4.5 hour trip from Islamabad to Lahore. But the bus was fantastic. They had a “flight attendant,” headphones, movies (I couldn’t understand them), a snack, a drink, periodic trips by the attendant to give us water (in cups that they provided) … Greyhound, eat your heart out! I wish I could tell you about what the trip was like, but I slept through most of it.
We came to Lahore principally to meet with I. A. Rehman, Pakistan’s Human Rights Commissioner. He said some good things and gave me an important insight on the relationship between the Pakistan military and the Taliban.
First of all, he pointed out that “the militants” (as they are frequently called here) “recruit” the people by force. They say, “Give us 40,000 rupees or one of your sons. Otherwise we will destroy your house and family.” Kind of a crazy “protection racket.” (In fact, Rehman likened them to “NYC youth gangs” threatening a local business.) The people cannot afford the price, so they give up their son to protect the rest of the family. That is why it really is indiscriminate to attack the “Taliban,” because not all the participants are willing, or are convinced of the “mission.” So, the people are caught between the militants, and the Pakistani security forces who are trying to “eliminate” the militants, especially with indiscriminate shelling and “extrajudicial” killings.
We spoke briefly about the drone attacks. Rehman’s investigations show that drone attacks do NOT cause the least damage. Also, drones cause more hatred, and so, recruitment for the militants. Especially, again, because their own government cannot protect them from attacks from a foreign (i.e., US) power. I asked about the legitimacy of a government that would allow a foreign power – even if it is an ally – to attack its own citizens, for whatever reason. Rehman’s wry response was: “We sold ourselves long ago; we have no shame on that now.”
Second, the militants do not recruit just from the poor. There are also young, rich Pakistani men among them. I heard later that often, retired military commanders from the Pak army go to the camps to train the militants – often because they are the “true Islam.” I heard that from Sr. Anna at the Jesuit Center later in the day. I suggested that the motivation might not be so much “true Islam,” but the fact that their own government and military cannot protect them – in particular from the US drone attacks. Others around the table seemed to agree with that.
There are two geo-political reasons I have heard about the Pakistani army’s strange dealings with the Taliban. First we see the kind of attacks on the Taliban that we heard about in the Swat Valley. The Pak army utterly destroyed every Talib they saw. Killed them, drove them out, bombed their houses.
At the same time, Pak military have trained the Taliban. And every once in a while, you hear a favorable statement from the army about the Taliban. For example, Colonel Imam in Pak army, boasting: “I raised the Taliban.” Rehman says that everyone knows that If US pulls out of Afghanistan, the Taliban will take over (in fact the Taliban already has “shadow governments” in 32 of the 34 provinces in Afghanistan); but if Pak army “takes care” of Taliban, then if Taliban takes over; Pak army will have direct influence over Afghanistan. The second I heard: that the Pak army wants to have the Taliban as a kind of “militia in reserve” in the face of the massive numerical superiority of India (especially, I suppose, if it comes to armed conflict in Kashmir).
A third, socio-political reason is that the government of Pak is hopelessly corrupt, existing to enrich a small power elite (also see subsequent interview with Dr. Hassan).
Tax structure is a scandal. People on top earn much; pay nothing. Crime against minorities has increased; violence against women has increased; 40% of people are living below the poverty line.
There are problems in Baluchistan with the separatists, and in general, the democratization process, as the country moves away from the military dictatorship of Musharraf, is stagnant.
And while the new 18th amendment is good in that it provides provinces more rights and authority, the provinces do they have the governmental infrastructure to implement it.
In the face of all that, the people need to turn to some group that will “represent” them. Add to that the fact that Pakistan was formed as, and still considers itself an explicitly Islamic state, and the appeal of the Taliban to act in a way that is “true Islam,” becomes seductive – even though all of the Pakistanis I’ve met speak quite openly about how the Taliban teaches a corruption of Islam, and that their use of “forced conversion” is deeply and explicitly antithetical to Qur’an and Islam.
Rehman spoke about the role of China in the geopolitics of Pak. Pak is sitting in such a key position with respect to China, and China foresees that one day, China and the US will be the principle rivals in the region – like a new Cold War. (In the last Cold War, Pakistan sided with the US, Rehman pointed out, and India with Russia. He foresees that in the new Cold War, Pakistan will side with China, and India will side with the US.) Kathy pointed out that the Chinese have stopped funding the deep sea port in Pakistan. But Rehman said that China is waiting; not wanting to provoke others in the region, esp. US; that right now, China is Interested in maintaining their 10%+ rate of growth. They’re not opposed to the construction of the oil and gas pipeline through Afghanistan (for which, I think, the Afghanistan war was principally fought), but they are concerned about who profits from it.
Rehman gave us some more insight on the Pakistan army, which really runs the country. To him, it’s not as though the country has an army, but that an army has a country.
The Pak army is a mercenary army; raised through the cold war years; paid for by the Americans to fight the Russians or the communists. “When the cold war ended, we didn’t know what to do; so God arranged for Afghanistan.”
Then army members went to Iran and gave them the technology to build an atomic bomb. Thus: “ Iran should do more to support Pak army.” (NB Rehman was telling these truths in an ironic, almost sarcastic tone. It is clear he regrets the military’s massive influence over the county.) Pak needs an external paymaster to keep its military going; Pak doesn’t have capacity to meet military’s demands.
Afterwards, I took some photos, and we left.
A coupla quotes from Rehman:
People may be misled for a time; but eventually, they learn to value peace
(No country stays the same way for ages; e.g. Mongolia forming its own nation now.}
The US should be respected for its values, not for its ability to harm people
The American mind is worried about bags of dead bodies; but should be more concerned about violations of human rights and lives around the globe.
Afterwards, Kathy and Josh went to the family where they were to stay, and I went to stay with the Jesuits. I was welcomed by Fr. Renato, a really tall Australian Jesuit with whom I had been in contact through email and phone. He was extraordinarily kind and accommodating, especially since our plans kept changing about when I was to arrive.
I got there in time to attend Mass. That was very good for me. The rector, Fr. Jacob celebrated. They were commemorating an older Jesuit who had died. So even though the reading was the “beatitudes,” Fr. Jacob talked about how the Jesuit who had died (didn’t get his name) had been an inspiration to him. There were several nuns there, and some of the workers at the high schools (one for boys, one for girls), and some candidates for the Society. Fr. Jacob projects this benign presence, almost Buddha-like kindness. When I asked him what would be the one message he would want me to bring back to the US from Pakistan, he said that the Americans should learn to love themselves. Because if they loved themselves, they would know how to love others, and not harm them.